I think many would rather have a 'fee' to release them from this field service burden. In our family/friend circle per older relatives---they all know service is a huge waste of time and resources. Once people can opt out without guilt, wow, what would really happen? one can dream.
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Preach or Tithe- Publishers choice
by All for show inmy siblings and i have been talking about the money woes.
we have thrown around the idea for them to keep the preaching/pioneer arrangement to keep some busy.
to increase cash flow they can institute a new tithing arrangement.
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Preach or Tithe- Publishers choice
by All for show inmy siblings and i have been talking about the money woes.
we have thrown around the idea for them to keep the preaching/pioneer arrangement to keep some busy.
to increase cash flow they can institute a new tithing arrangement.
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Fukitol, I know of this arrangement. I am thinking of a future move to cover lots of needs. Decrease in stats, cash flow, an disillusionment/burn out.
I would love to see who goes after careers with tithing vs who pioneers/slaves for free.
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Preach or Tithe- Publishers choice
by All for show inmy siblings and i have been talking about the money woes.
we have thrown around the idea for them to keep the preaching/pioneer arrangement to keep some busy.
to increase cash flow they can institute a new tithing arrangement.
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My siblings and I have been talking about the money woes. We have thrown around the idea for them to keep the preaching/pioneer arrangement to keep some busy. To increase cash flow they can institute a new tithing arrangement. Of course not under that name, since they are 'better' than christendom.
Heres a possibility. The GB will be so loving and sympathetic to the difficulty of the economy and those struggling. Bills, cost of living, getting a job, retaining a job and the like are now so difficult they have instituted 'New Light'
Preach/Pioneer as usual, these people tend to be low in funds and already don't donate much if, at all. Those working, with decent income and cash flow, aren't in the ministry as much or pioneering regularly because they are naughty and chasing the almighty dollar. Boom. They can tithe their money and still be good with God, just as good as a Pioneer. They will have any publisher count time for merely mentioning they are a JW, not eating birthday cake, not going to the xmas party, all these things will be counted as a witness and time witnessing. This will be the reason for decreases in magazine placement, RVs, and bible studies. Everyone wins.
Anythings possible right?
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My first post
by thewalker inhi, i just joined the board and wanted to present myself.. i'm active, in fact very active in congregation activities serving "where the need is great" in a foreign language congregation somewhere in western europe.
as a young brother, i'm seen as an example as i'm doing all a good witness should do.. i had doubts years ago but i decided just to ignore them and move to another congregation to preach more.
that worked for some years but i'm now at the exact same point.
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HI Walker,
There are people here with amazing advice and experience. When I first joined the forum over a year ago, I was so overwhelmed by what I was reading. Some of it, saying it was a cult, offended me. Steady yourself, there is no Rush, and hold on for one wild ride.
There is so much information. Give yourself a break when you feel overwhelmed and distraught. So many here are willing to listen and offer wonderful advice. Whatever you do, keep your feelings and what you learn to YOURSELF!!
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Correlation decline JW numbers and JW broadcasting?
by Gorbatchov ini read some impressive figures here about the decline of the jw numbers in 2015.. could there be a correlation between this decline and the start of jw broadcasting?.
hence, that there would be an negative impact because the gb is standing so nearby, you can experience the idiot reasoning of their doctrines sitting in your own living room?.
the lett effect?
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My mom refuses to watch the Broadcasts because it weakens her faith by what she 'sees and hears'. Her longtime friend was disquisted by the February/Morris Anti-Education rant. She said it shook her faith so bad she can't watch or hear any GB speak. (Not paying their own way in life and ridiculing those who have to provide for family was the turn off)
My dad watches every single one in disgust with his only JW friend. The friend openly mocks Lett as the most 'ridiculously, obnoxious, moron that existed' My Regular Pioneer Uber JW cousins were so enthusiastic about JW broadcasting and now NEVER mention watching it or going to the special viewing sessions after its month one release.
I haven't heard anymore criticism since my non attendance has become obvious and the happy happy happy charade has been put on.
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The Thief of Always
by YinzerDad inprologue... .
a brief precursor about myself.
i've been lurking around for almost 2 years.
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Yinzer-- I could be you. Similar age, college educated, and my husband always asks me what my passions are. What I want for the future. I have never known- we never had a future growing up. He says I handle everything like a task to be completed but have no joy. We have education, great kids, great marriage, and money to enjoy life. Why is that not enough? What is wrong with me? It's not that I want more, but I feel empty.
My husband, a non born in, converted for me during med school. Looking back, he says being a JW totally F*ed up his med/residency life. He can now see and understand- being a JW he never felt so dead, unenthusiastic, judgmental, and worthless in his life. Constantly hearing at meeting you are not good enough, all the judgement, man made rules, ridiculous 'study' articles... He feels he has his life back. He can be himself again. He has a zeal and practices different, his partners even have noticed a huge shift in the last 6 months. I am jealous he can 'go back' to who he is, but I don't know who 'i am'
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What would happen ??
by Clambake inthere is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.
first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".
he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".
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You have to update us. This situation is so bizarre. Especially since its been ongoing, months and months it seems from your timeline. Pregnancy - Birth
Congrats on the new baby. There is no love or experience in the world like it.
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Too Funny Prank
by berrygerry infrom a redditor - would have died to have been there.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3sukbu/our_congregation_happens_to_have_a_networked/.
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by Clambake inthere is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.
first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".
he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".
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I don't have any experience myself, Other people here have been elders and seem to have good advice.
I am in my 30's and my closest JW girlfriends, 2/3, were married to UBMs. After they had kids... they felt they had to try extra hard to raise them JWs. They subjected themselves to their service overseer or random elder in the hall who took interest, almost as if it was their husband. Not sexual in any way, but in a bizarre way I can't explain. There is some common bond between JWs being IN vs OUT... he is capitalizing on this.
I would play it this way-yes its a game to play. I would talk to HER and make sure she knows you feel its weird. I would act like you are threatened by their communication--it being inappropriate--why isn't the WIFE texting her anyway? Her wanting to give a 'good witness' will see this is stumbling you and be more sensitive to YOUR feelings, than to defending him. Make sure she stays on YOUR side, not defending him. Who cares if he is ugly, fat, bald...i am sure your wife is young since she had a baby...and affairs rarely happen due to good looks. My point? Use this to get her on your side and have him back the F*&^ off. Its weird- and totally inappropriate.
I am in my 30's and woke up after multiple back to back pregnancies, because of the amount of work vs lack of support from congregation members. I hope this works for your wife.
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Greetings
by Pioneerbot inwanted to say hi.
i've been lurking for a long time.
i also spend time on other forums.
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Welcome! And Congrats! I have young kiddos so find myself lucky to have awakened when they are young. I am curious how your family relations and kids relationship with your husband are? He is still in, you all are awake? Please tell how this works in your household- is there peace?